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16/06/2008

Some more thoughts on criticism.

Since I am not a net savvy guy and only just now entered this world I made a startling discovery. I have never read reviews beyond 3 to 4 Mumbai based newspapers ever and I thought that was it. On the net there are literally hundreds of reviews. When I went through them I was amazed at so many diverse points of views both in liking and disliking the film. Many of them have been much more intelligently written than the so-called names attached to popular newspapers. I am not talking about praise or criticism here; it’s just about their analytical power.

Everyone has a mind and every mind has an opinion and every opinion-maker strongly believes that he is right and the whole world is wrong, not realizing that probably each of all those other millions of minds will be thinking the same. I think this is the most beautiful part of life… that each of us creates a world of our own in our heads and when we seriously listen to another person it’s almost like visiting another world. When I read a nasty review or a glowing review many a times I get struck by how differently they viewed it from how I intended it. The philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche said “there are no facts only interpretations”. I think this is very true of cinema.

In all my good, bad and ugly films I keep getting stumped when people who meet me over the years tell me the reasons why they liked something and why they didn’t, as in more often what I did not intend is what they took from the film. I saw “Ardhsatya” seven times. When I happened to meet Govind Nihalani years later and discussed the film with him, I was shocked to realize that what reasons he made it for was not what I liked it for. He made it for the father-son relationship and I saw it for Rama Shetty and for my curiosity of what happened inside a police station. I didn’t have the heart to tell him that I always used to fast-forward the father-son scenes. But yes, there would be probably many others who would connect to that part of the film and the proof of that is the existence of Mr. Govind Nihalini himself. The fact that he thought like that is proof that there will be people who think like him.

In my growing years I was greatly influenced by Mr. Shyam Benegal’s Ankur, Nishant, Kalyug etc… Company is actually a rehash of Kalyug. Instead of politics in the Corporate world I dealt with politics in the underworld. But I very heavily borrowed from Kalyug. In my few interactions with him I have realized that he is an exceptionally knowledgeable and well-read and would understand the subject matter so well. So as a result he has a tendency to tell the story almost from a top angle whereas me I do it from a low angle. I like to be intimidated and awed by the characters and situations I am dealing in with a child-like fascination.

Coming back to the point of opinions now thanks to the net anyone can literally access anyone’s opinion across the globe. What more can a filmmaker ask for? People ask me whether I know what the audience wants. Let me tell you an observation I made on a recent visit to a DVD library near my house on Yaari road. I went to pick up a film, spent about 20 minutes in the store. While I was doing that various customers were coming in. 9 out of 10 of them were picking up films which for the life of me can’t imagine why anybody would want to see. So if my disconnect right under my nose on the street where I live in is so off the mark, on what basis can I even begin to think I know the audience of the country.

Let’s say there are 1500 titles in the store. If any of us spend one full day I doubt we will be able to decide more than 200 films what we have seen or what we want to see. Then what are the other 1300 films doing there? The fact that they have been made and put on the shelves is proof enough of the existence of the people who would watch them too.

Dhoom 2 is the biggest hit of last year. It reportedly collected 20 Crores in Maharashtra. On an average price of 100 rupees a ticket, 20 lakh people saw Dhoom 2. For a film like that I guess half of them would be repeat audience. So my question is if 10 lakh people in a population of 6 crores of Maharashtra can make the years biggest hit then what are the rest of 5 crores 90lakh people doing? Do they watch films or no? Is it the same people that watch Tare Zameen Par and Welcome or are they different? Anyways the point I am trying to make here is that you can’t generalize audience and as long as you can’t do that why think of the audience and delude yourself.

David Dhawan uses the term audience, Maniratnam uses, Sanjay Leela Bhansali uses; I use the term audience, like-wise various directors of various different styles and sensibilities. But how can those audiences be the same? The truth is that we all directors do what we as individuals like and tell ourselves that this is what the audience wants.

Film in the truest sense of the word is an expression of ones own personality. A filmmaker is not a primary artist in the sense of the word. The actor is acting, the writer is writing, the music director is composing etc… etc… but all these primary works are being processed in the directors mind to create a coherent whole, at least in his mind. So he might not be able to compose the music but we only get to hear what he likes to hear. We only get to see characters such as what he would like to show us, likewise all the other departments.

You go to a clothes store and you might not like many shirts but you will find something you like. The ones you don’t like are all bought by somebody else or the other. So I think at best for both, for the manufacturer which is the filmmaker and the retailer which is the theatre and the consumer which is the ticket buying audience, the one-to-one interaction and reaction are just about the only truth. Everything else is a matter of commerce.

My reactions to reactions:

1. Leave something for the audience to decipher?
Ans:- You missed the point.

2. Since when did Anita suddenly become family?
Ans: Since I decided.

3. We didn’t know who exactly the central character is among the two Nagres.
Ans: My answer was intended for the reviewer who thought there was one.

4. Beg to differ, sire.
Ans: Okay dokey!

5. Always your Eklavya.
Ans: I am impressed with your observations.

6. You never revealed the benefits of the plant in Sarkar Raj.
Ans: The film is not about the benefits. It’s about the interplay of various characters having their own motivations and agendas in the making of the plant.

7. Why are you so fascist in your decisions?
Ans: - I get a kingly kick.

8. I would say that RGV is not bettering himself.
Ans: That’s because I am already the best. Ha Ha! Just joking! On a serious note may be I am not. Ha Ha! Joking again!

9. Why did you leave out Tarun Adrarsh? Just because he gave a good review?
Ans: It’s not about good or bad.  It’s about where I wish to make my point.

10. I think you like praise. You just have inferiority complex.
Ans: Okay dokey!

11. Love the 3 to 5 minutes single shot scene in Deyyam. Any insights into that!
Ans: I forgot.

12. You are being harsh when you say you copy.
Ans: I copy with joy and pride.

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Vamsi Sagarha scritto:
Why use nisha kothari in most of your films? Drawing a comparision between Urmila and Nisha or even Antra Nisha is the worst. I feel really bad when ur films dont work and she is definetly not helping.
21 Feb.
geethika muppaha scritto:
hello ramu ji,
actually i just want to know what you think about "siva" movie becoz most of the people loves it but i don't.I didn't found the movie interesting .So i just wanna ask u
9 Dic.
Infact.. I would say.. there is nothing like "what audience wants".. because as you rightly said.. david dhawan, mani ratnam and even ramu can entertain the same set of audience with a drastic change in the treatment.. hence only thing that is very much clear to me atleast is the fact that every one looks for some kind of sensibility irrespective of the "genere" of the film as such.. for example.. I've grown up appreciating so many of K. Vishwanath's films and Balachandar's films and even now I cant help appreciating a film by RGV.. people might say I am crazy.. infact one of my friends used to elbow be on the fact that I've watched Sankarabharanam and Rangeela on the same day.. that too on the day of my final exam :D.. I feel its the sensibility that appeals to any class of audience than the genere itself... adding some sensibility (which make it look atleast close to reality or atleast reality in fantasy) into subjects probably is the real task for story tellers... as our old telugu saying goes "abaddam chepte atikinattu undaali ani"..
20 Ago.
Dhananjay Kumarha scritto:
Hi Ramu Ji,
 
I llke your blog and also your movies to much. I am your regular reader. You are a man of great quality and emotions.
1 Lug.
naveen mahadevuniha scritto:
Hello Ramu sir,
 
Sarkar Raj was good. Was amazed watching the powerful performance of the great actor Amitabh saab and the way you made his scenes look so gruesome during the climax. Would like to see you and Hrithik working together! Any take on that??
 
Thanks,
Naveen
30 Giu.
Senza nomeha scritto:
Hello Sir,
You are one of the finest directors I have known. This is the first time I am ever writing/commenting in a blog. I did like to share something with you. I have watched Sarkar Raj. The movie was fabulous!

Great things above the movie: Superb, flawless, gripping direction, music score, performance of Sr. Bacchan.
Not so great things: Honestly, I wanted the villans to be mighty ones (who can make impressions and are unforgetful) like the ones you had used in your prequel, like Silver manni, swami, etc. But this point can be overlooked as I was amused by the direction and Mr. Bachhan's performance.
 
Sir, this movie had a such a great impact on me that after the movie, I started wondering n m still thinking,  whom would you cast in your sequel to Sarkar Raj. After running my brains, n thinking hard... I thought Neil Mukesh should fit the role in your next sequel. Reason: Chikoo shud be someone who shud look younger than Aishwariya. Firstly, I had thought that you could rope in Mohit Alhawat as Chikoo... but he is not so popular among masses. Neil Mukesh might be a good choice as he has worked under your banner too. Thought of sharing this with you :-)
 
Keep up the good work, Sir:-)
Your's sincerely,
Ru.
30 Giu.
SUBRAHMANY​AM Vha scritto:
Sir,
 
     u r the 1 & only, no words 2 say
 
The mystery man in the movie is Mr. Javed Ansari the Asst. Director, isn't it?
I wanna talk with u once in my life time.
28 Giu.
tegveerha scritto:
sir, how about a sequel to daud or may b kaun
25 Giu.
Immagine di Anonimo
Tushar ha scritto:
Ramu jee,
Namaskar !
Why you think so much about opinions. You cant compare movie ticket sale with DVD sale in a store or talking about population who watch them and who dont.
Do not confuse yourself.
Be an audience while making a movie instead ot being a movie-maker and you will get all your replies. Keep it simple and listen to your heart.
I wish I was a movie-maker. May be one day, who knows ;) i.e., why I am not sharing my ideas. Sorry !
:)
ShubhDin !
23 Giu.
Yogeshha scritto:
Does the last line of the movie - Anita asking "ek chaai milegi?" epitomize the punchline "Power is not given, it has to be taken."? I would have expected subtlety in the closing line - like Anita sipping tea with solemnity! Were the words really required?
22 Giu.
Narendra Varmaha scritto:
I remember asking u a suggestion of how to be a successful director. This article is the perfect answer. Thank you sir. My wish is that u make a telugu film once again. Hope that my dream comes true sometime from now.
21 Giu.
Immagine di Anonimo
Unbreakable ha scritto:
@Karthik & @all
 
I had mis-read your(Karthik) post and thought you were calling RGV as KG student.
It was big mis-understanding from me..... :)
 
20 Giu.
sreenivasha scritto:
your criticism on criticism sounds so profound and true. the very fact that you admit the source of  your inspiration for your works speaks of your sincerity. its rarely found in the tinselworld. your shiva in telugu is considered a trendsetter. were you not inspired by a hindi movie 'arjun' (of sunny deol)?  was it not a refined version of that movie?
 
20 Giu.
Pritamha scritto:
Would you like to make Atlas shrugged some day. I am sure you have read it. The book has a readymade script more fascinating  than fountainhead.
20 Giu.
Pritamha scritto:
I liked the last scene when dilip prabhavalkar says "dhruv tara to ek hi hai. batao, abhi shankar ki jagah kaun le sakta hai" dilip tries to give amitabh a subtle suggestion.
The look on dilip's face was amazing when he sees a dead somji with broken spectacles and blood splattered 
20 Giu.
Rajha scritto:
HI Ramuji:
 
          Excellent way of interpretations on Reviews.  I really likedwhat ou have quoted 'There is no facts.only interpretations" .
 
Ramuji, Can you pls make SARKAR RAJ with a alternate ending and release in he DVD version alone with 2 endings.One which we saw in the movie and the new ending , May be with Shankar Nagre still running the show. I have seen few Hollywood flicks with 2 endings in the DVD release. Pls consider this. ALso DVD will be Big HIT as the Movie too.
 
Best regards,
Rajesh from Los angles
20 Giu.
Immagine di Anonimo
ghunoo ha scritto:
Forgot to add - you made Aishwarya act, which in itself is amazing.............

My jaw dropped at Abhishek's performance. If his eyes were bullets and his looks the paths of those bullets, there would not be anyone left standing. Superlative..!!

What to say about the Big B - There is a reason, he is who he is and he proves it in every scene, every movie, every moment..!! Everything

Congratulations. Well done, I did not think anyone could survive the criticism and mockery that you endured after Aag. It was enough to send people into mental therapy for a lifetime.
20 Giu.
Immagine di Anonimo
ghunoo ha scritto:
Loved the movie, hated the fact that shankar died, bawled like a baby for the Little B, all in all, maybe a little too dark for my taste, but I am sure you did not make it for me. !!

BTW, I was stunned for the entire evening and pretty much the whole of next day. I am not sure if you intended for anyone to take it so seriously, but I was amazed at the depths of human deception and the heights of human triumph. For a long time,  I did not have any words...............

Now, I am looking forward to the final part of the trilogy. I am going to circumvent the praise, because it does not look like you need it, and for the criticism, well, it wasn't bad, so there is none.

20 Giu.
fafarha scritto:
Hello Mr varma,

I find filmy personalities overtly sensitive to criticism, I hate the word "ji" after everyone as if it seems that it is a forced respect. It makes me believe that you people live in a world of your world in a shell. Do u think world revolves around you? I like all critics except taran adarsh, his opinions are always guided by his personal agenda. To whom to give credit and to whom should i pull down. He is a damn monetary oriented critic and i hate him. though i visit indiafm becoz he gave some good bollywood news and releases. I used to be your fan till bhoot after that i dont know what happened to you i have discussed it with my brother as to what happened to our  ram gogal verma, why he is not churning out quality movie as it is expected of him? i like to believe that the moment u entered into production with many films on your hand you dont pay as much attention as you used to be. I think you are losing credit not only among critic but also among your fans. the brand ram gopal verma is on a decline. i am only a well wisher. and i hope to see you back in form like the old days you used to be in satya, jungle bhoot etc
20 Giu.
Senza nomeha scritto:
Hi RGV,

Iam a great fan of you ever since i saw Shiva.After heavy criticism you have to take after AAg(i didnt see aag) & nishabdh(good movie,but not for Indian mind set),Sarkar Raj was a great comeback.The movie was great except for some characters.You build up Aishwarya's character as tough corporate executive,but she didnt seem to be as ruthless Nagre family.you should have sent her character back to london or where ever she is from and used her character in the next sequel(i would strongly hope the saga continues).In the las scene Sarkar tells his wife to call Chikoo and on the other hand you show Ash asking for a cup of tea,are you creating a suspense on who will succeed Sarkar.This is only my opinion as viewer and a fan of yours.I read your review of reviews,man you are on fire.Thats why i suggest to all my friends not go to a movie after seeing movie ratings and reviews(which is just somebodys opinion).Ramu your blogs rock
19 Giu.

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